Curse

LifeInfusion · Aug 26, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39

Mystic Regeneration: When this Enchantment ends, you lose one Enchantment.
Mystic Sandstorm: Lose all Enchantments.
Pious Concentration: you lose 1 Enchantment or Pious Concentration ends.
Signet of Piety:Lose one Enchantment.
Eremite's Zeal: Lose one Enchantment for each adjacent foe. You gain 1...4 Energy for each Enchantment removed in this way.
Extend Enchantments: Lose all Enchantments.
Meditation: Lose one Enchantment.
Pious Haste: When this Stance ends, you lose 1 Enchantment
Irresistable Sweep: You lose one Enchantment.
Twin Moon Sweep: You lose one Enchantment.
Pious Restoration: Lose one Enchantment
Rending Touch: You and target touched foe lose one Enchantment
Winds of Disenchantment: Lose all Enchantments
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Mysticism (Primary) : Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 3 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Mysticism.
...16* 3HP =48 HP per enchant lost if you max the primary attribute
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Basically a detriment to bonders, boonprots and all enchantment users that buff the team.
Even in the PvP event I saw monking was a pain unless you went pure heal...

Zinger314 · Aug 26, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Boon Prots?!

Boon Prots heal an extra 48 HP for each Enchantment they cast on a Dervish. Definaltely not anti-Monk.

unholy guardian · Aug 26, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

Yes add reveral of fortune and you and the dervish will be happy...less healing needed for them, so bonders may have a slight problem, the dervish can handle themself pretty well with just themselves, hand them a couple enchants to use and it will be awesome.

Plushie Penguin · Aug 26, 2006, 03:21 AM // 03:21

don't forget skills are going to get changed before the release, they could be changed to removing dervish enchantments only

Katari · Aug 26, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Boon Prot monks generally have a bunch of fairly short duration enchantments, Myst will only help in that area. It's not like half of the dervish skills wern't enchantments. Carefull managment of enchantments would allow a dervish to be bonded, since all of their enchants would be on top of the bonds, and they'd be the first enchants removed.

Dave83 · Aug 26, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Maybe we may see more resto Rt's around.

Terra Xin · Aug 26, 2006, 03:55 AM // 03:55

I don't get it, how does a boon prot have trouble healing a dervish again? Most of the monks spells dont even last that long.

ubermancer · Aug 26, 2006, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Each of the Dervish attributes has a self heal. Not even monks can boast that.

Compare that to that crap of a heal Shadow Refuge, and compare Mirage Cloak with the ELITE Flashing Blades...

fallot · Aug 26, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

Basically a detriment to bonders, boonprots and all enchantment users that buff the team.
Even in the PvP event I saw monking was a pain unless you went pure heal...

No offense but that's pretty stupid. They gain energy and health when enchants end on them. How you managed to delude yourself into believing that was bad is beyond my knowledge.

0mar · Aug 26, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

wait what? Unless you use garbage healing spells like healing breeze, monks should welcome the new dervish if the changes stay in place.

For a boon prot, a single ROF will heal ~200 damage. 48 + 70 from the divine favor + divine boon. Up to 67 from damage --> health conversion and on top of that, 35ish (not to mention energy) health from mysticism triggering on enchantment end.

Ezekial Bain · Aug 26, 2006, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Looks like Dervishes will get on well with Ritualists and their Weapon Spells then.

I'm looking forward to taking my Resto. Rit into Elona.

Shadowfrost · Aug 26, 2006, 09:08 AM // 09:08

I reckon D/Mo will just take ROF as a heal, because it ends so easily and often, and it recharges and casts so quickly it could be a lifesaver. And all those dervish enchantments.... *drool*

AoE damage enchants that don't scare away the enemy FTW!

mega_jamie · Aug 26, 2006, 09:46 AM // 09:46

Dervish arnt going to be hated imo, as everyone has said, these enchant enders are a good thing really, as long as it's ending the right enchants, so careful stacking if your that bothered.

IMO these guys, under the mechanics we saw at PvP event are going to be highly highly appreciated, A D/W will probably be able to both tank and dish out some major major damage, I mean, think of how quickly you would raise adrenaline. I can see FoW teams made up on Rit, Mo and dervishes only doing extremely well.

I think people who arnt good monks, or can't adapt will end up screaming "stop knocking my enchants off", especially if they think their breeze just saved you, but most people I feel will enjoy a Dervish in the party, ALOT more than they do an assassin.

Kabale · Aug 26, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

I'm not worried about healing Dervishes, I'm more worried about enemy Dervishes taking away MY enchantments. Not to mention other classes doing so...

Rending Touch: You and target touched foe lose one Enchantment

Forget Shock Warriors, this is the new metagame...

urbnatr · Aug 26, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

nah not going to be a problem

Horseman Of War · Aug 26, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Well basically, enchantment management (i.e. layering) will be the definitive line between a 'pro' and a 'noob'

I dont think a monk should worry about the dervishes too much, they are too easy to self-heal.

unienaule · Aug 26, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Dervishes are probably going to get nerfed, so, wait until they're changed, THEN complain? Not that this isn't a good point, but as other people have pointed out, it's not like ending the enchant doesn't do anything. That's what their primary attribute/energy management is BASED off of. So some other form of monking might be better because dervishes end enchants all the time! Big deal! As I recall, people didn't just drop over dead every second before the boonprot became popular.

Quid Pro Quo · Aug 26, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

I hope they don't nerf the stuff people didn't play like the scythe skills. I was one of the few people using a different build then everyone else and found that the Dervishes were quite balanced and fun to play if you used them for other then the builds being exploited which mostly consisted of enchantment managing.

unholy guardian · Aug 26, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

yeah the syche skills were fun... they didn't seem to mesh with the other skills enough though.

LifeInfusion · Aug 26, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

When I say boon prot and bonders I mean maintained maintained enchants or those with significant duration, specifically Life Bond/Life Barrier in addition to Protective Spirit, Vigorous Spirit, Aegis, Shielding Hands, Judge's Insight, Healing Breeze, Healng Seed, Shield Guardian, Spirit Bond, Shield of Regen... basically anything > 10 seconds.

I didn't mean RoF and Guardian... those are only about 5-6 seconds as it is.

Seriously, they ought to make the skills end enchantments that are from the Dervish profession only.

Another thing is how will this work with Orders Necros and other team buffs...